St. Thomas Aquinas is the patron saint of my class when I was in high school. :) Talking about your personal beliefs, opinions on a matter is also termed as personal philosophy at some point.

anyway, i cannot really say i understand you, because that means me putting myself in your persona and actually thinking the way you do which i admit is way out of my league(shit, hindi ko nga alam kung tama spelling ko, hahaha), but i think i could "relate", the better term eh? just as they say, i would answer your comment assuming the writer's dead
yah, its true, the stuff about people being social and stuff, their innate longing for companionship or love, and when everything fails, just as it always does, when everything goes back to entropy, they tend to cling into something indestructible, an idea, which in this case is God, and this tendency to cling into that certain idea is then termed as faith. but are we not defined by our impulses? isn't our impulses mere children of our own nature? well, if it is, does it mean then that it is our nature to search for this certain "idea of happiness" because its tangible counterpart that the world offers is just so fickle? so if ever God didn't exist, then our nature would then be only following nothingness? i mean, that's really, really sad. then everything is just a pointless journey, well, this were the atheist really stick it out. people like you are just so brave to admit death followed by oblivion. i meant it in the best way possible eh? wala lang, i think i'm not that brave. hehehe.
and in the previous comments you talked about philo and stuff, ever read aquinas's works? imean, of course it doesn't prove god is good all the time but it certainly could insert possibilities of a maker. well, this is way too long and boring...hahaha,ciao!

I do not believe in God, because for me, a super almighty, omni-everything "being" somewhere out there does not exist. There is neither heaven or hell for me. I am an atheist, after all. If I believe in a god, whether it is that I just hate him or whatever, it does not make me atheist simply because I am just in denial.

I do not know about your beliefs, but for my truth, I don't think that God created man, rather, it is that men created God in their own image and likeness - to have someone to believe in to, to have someone to comfort you when all else left you, you have someone to listen to when you cry, to have someone to thank for when something good happened. Basically, it's to have someone somewhere that would always be there no matter what.

People are naturally social. If they can't talk to anyone, they would create their own imaginary friend - just like a child who can't play with anyone eventually makes his own best friend.

This is how I think, I am not forcing you to believe me. Frankly, I do not even care if you do. Sometimes, I do not even understand myself, so I am not expecting you to understand me likewise.

:smile:

It's not liking or disliking what I am and my life without God. It's more of my truth, the truth I arrived at, and my beliefs, the philosophy which molded me to who I am before and who I am now.

I won't bombard you with doctrine, because that's not what you want. But God changed my life, and I pray that you will let Him change yours too.

Why don't you think on what you have become. Do you like your life without God? We can plainly see that frustration and sadness leaks from your writings. But if you want to meet the Father again, like in the parable of the prodigal son, then I encourage you to take the steps towards Him.

God loves you, and I love you too. I am in the middle of doing a school project when I saw this thread, and I empathize because you were what I am. I love you, because He taught me to love you.

Please don't forget that.

"Use everything we've learned this sem, prove that this chair does not exist."

The whole class answered for an hour but the laziest student finished the test in less than a minute. 1 week later, the grades were posted in the class and the lazy student got the highest score. His answer consisted of just 2 words.

"What chair?"

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"What God?"

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You see, those that repeatedly express their belief(s) of believing or not believing if God(s) exist(s) are actually acknowledging their existence (God[s]) making it undeniable. Well, if we follow the principles of logic anyway.

i posted that only because i don't see myself posting anything or posting my opinion on atheists. that is why i can truly say that I am letting you guys be. i am not saying anything, even my own opinions about what you believe or not believe for that matter. now, having posted your opinions on this matter, can you really say that you guys are letting us be? i think not, because you guys haven't been tolerant enough to hold what you have to say.

Miss you guys!! i hope the transition goes well Euri :D

I actually didn't have the intention to mock God, since there is no point in doing so. I mean, why the heck would I waste time mocking someone/something on which existence I doubt. You get me right?

If ever you and/or someone got offended by how I think, I won't dare say that "I can't do anything about it." Of course, I can always do something. But then again, the person's already wounded and I am not the type to pour salt into the wound.

Oh and how we missed you here. :D

@ Chette ~
Why is it that you always give me an impression of either:

1. You really don't read post and/or replies and just reply at the first sight of a phrase you wanted to comment on;

2. You always get agitated by my heretic way of sharing my opinions over the net so you don't even bother reading the rest of it and just comment away whatever that comes to mind;

3. There is definitely something wrong with the way how I construct my sentences that leads you to always misinterpreting whatever I wrote;

4. There's something wrong with your reading comprehension.

Again, I did not state that Jesus is not a god. I said:

If Jesus is God himself,

and

Even if Jesus is not God himself,

That being that God (as in God, the big "G-O-D", Yahweh, the god of Abraham, the god of Moses, the "I am God and you shall not have other gods besides me" - that God) and Jesus (the son of god) might be one and the same person, in two different bodies/entities/personalitie s/whatever it is.

While at it, I would like to take this chance to emphasize the greatness of the word IF.

On another thought, this made me think, does the Bible say that Jesus was a god? I am not sure, since I think it was mentioned that he was "the son of God", but not exactly a god. Also, according to the 10 commandments, God stated that he is the one and only god and we shall not have other gods beside him. If we would consider Jesus as a god, him being His son and all, wouldn't we be punished for not following the #1 rule (a.k.a the first of the 10 commandments)?

You telling me that Jesus isn't God? I thought you were reading the Bible? :P

errr… you’re an atheist, I have no problem with that, I will let you be. Why mock our God? Let us be. let us be tolerant of each other’s belief. As believers, we don’t need further proof, for us we have seen and felt it. Just let us be the fools you think we are.

Peace :)

Hi Arlo,

Hmmm.. I didn't quite understand your comment :( and as to why you concluded that "They should not call themselves real believers of God. " heheheheh ...

Who I'm pointing to as the ones who shouldn't call themselves real believers of God are some of the religions who base every human act on the Bible. Like for example, eating blood or singing the National Anthem or blood transfusions or marrying someone with a different religion. Why wouldn't God save you if you do those stuff? I mean like for example, Atheists. Atheists do not believe in God. Does that conclude that Atheists are evil? They just don't get the logic.

Well, I respect other religions. I am a Catholic but I am not a devout Catholic. It's because I think some of the Catholic dogmas don't make sense like what I think of some beliefs of other religions.

If Jesus is God himself, for me, it means the same thing as him killing himself to touch people's hearts by saying he sacrificed himself for the people's salvation and resurrected himself afterwards.

Even if Jesus is not God himself, rather, the son of God, it doesn't make any difference because he killed his own son to gain people's faith and masked it off as a forgiveness of people's sin.

Regardless of which it is, I do think that the very idea of it turned out fruitful. With the setting of a bloody stage with evil tyrants bullying a helpless man who is too weak to even stand on his own, carrying a heavy cross on his back, and being whipped endlessly is definitely very touching and would drive quite a lot of people to swoon over to the faith.

Of course, this is only in my opinion. Considering that my point of view is not something that the mass would agree upon and the way I think could be considered "not normal" and too warped.

If you recall the man beside Jesus (in the calvary) He was a murderer, a theif... he broke many laws of the 10 commandments. But when He ask Jesus to "remember Him..." And Jesus replied (very fast) "Today you shall be with me in Paradise.

Peace. Life is a gift. We shouldn't waste it with these stuff. Have a good life even though you think the world is already messed up ^^